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Apr
08

Lapsed Catholics

The Pope is requesting that those of us who have walked away from the Catholic Church simply listen to him while he is in the States and take a moment to consider what he’s saying.  Now, I have to admit, I have little interest in this Pope.  Pope John Paul was so many things to so many Catholics around the world that I really wonder if it’s possible for Benedict to measure up.  Even as a lapsed Catholic myself, I just don’t see myself returning to a church that preaches hate (anti-homosexual rhetoric), sexism (not allowing women to become preists), and overpopulation and the spread of disease (not allowing the use of condomns or birth control).  The education provided at Catholic Schools is excellent, partially due to the strict nature of the religion and it’s followers, but intolerance breeds intolerance.  None of my lapsed Catholic friends see anything in this Pope that calls them to return to worship.  The world has changed.  Religion has changed.  The Catholic church has remained largely the same for quite some time.

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3 Responses to “Lapsed Catholics”


  1. April 8, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    >”a church that preaches hate (anti-homosexual rhetoric),”

    I’d be curious where you experienced that. The catholic Church teaches that gays are children of God with immortal souls made in His images. The Church exists for gays and non-gays equally. That said, sex outside of marriage is a sin for both gays and non-gays. Don’t expect the Church to change on sex outside of marriage.

    >” sexism (not allowing women to become preists)”

    Well, if were about sexism, you’d be right and have a point. Fortunately, the Church doesn;t ordain females because it lacks the authority to do so. The Pope could lay hands and pronounce ordinations on every human female and they’d still not be ordained priests. Some things are not within the authority of the Church.

    >”overpopulation”

    Perhaps you are not familiar with Demographic Winter? The human population is crashing.

    >”not allowing the use of condomns or birth control”

    Um, natural birth control methods are allowed. Only artificial birth control is forbidden. Abstinance would also stop the spread of HIV/AIDS.

    >” intolerance breeds intolerance”

    You may have confused tolerance and permissiveness. The Catholic Church is tolerant. The Church is not permissive.

    >” The Catholic church has remained largely the same for quite some time.”

    Yep, about 2,000 years and it won’t be changing in our lifetimes either. Sin will still be sin and I wouldn’t bet on the Church ever endorsing sin.

    >” Even as a lapsed Catholic myself … my lapsed Catholic friends”

    I would encourage you and your friends to re-discover your faith. You seem to misunderstand much of what the Church truely teaches and why. If you’re going to be mad at the Church and rant, you might as well get the facts right. Check out this new resource:

    Catholics Come Home

    If anything, the above site will give you something new to blog about. 3,000 Catholics in Phoenix ave returned to the Church in just the past month.

    God bless…

    +Timothy

  2. 2 Deb
    April 9, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I am with you on this.

  3. April 15, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    You should take Timothy’s advice, UWL. At least you’ll be commenting on that which is truly taught in the Church, and avoid using extreme examples of false-Catholicism as the norm. Then you’ll establish a real dialogue with others, the type of dialogue I’m sure you want to have flourishing on this site. To do so, though, will require you to confront your prejudices, which you and I have discussed unceasingly in the past.

    Hope all is well with you, your family and career.

    All the best,

    Undergroundlogician


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